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Kary English
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Hey, all,
Q1 results will be coming out soon, and I'd like to make you aware of two new categories for WOTF judging.
 
Disqualified - We've instituted this category to let entrants know when they've submitted something that we can't consider because it violates the contest rules. Since this is our first trial of the DQ option, we're only using it for the following situations:
  • You left your name on your entry.
  • Your entry exceeded our length limit.
  • Your entry was not in English, or was in a format or genre that the contest does not accept. Mostly this means poetry, screenplays, scholarship essays, erotica, excessive profanity, children's stories, or stories that don't contain a speculative element.
 
Rejected With Comments - One of the most frequent requests we get from entrants is that they want more feedback. They want to know why their entry was rejected, or why it stopped at HM. We've heard you, and we'll be rolling out a new Rejected With Comments category, starting with Q1 and progressing over the next several quarters.
 
If you receive a Rejected With Comments letter, it means your story showed promise, but was held back by one or more issues mentioned in the letter. You will not receive comments specific to your story. Instead, the letter will contain a list of things that hold stories back, and you'll need to evaluate your entry to determine which item(s) may have affected your story.
The current RWC categories are:
  • Failure to Launch - your opening went on too long, was too unfocused, or did not engage us
  • Didn't Stick the Landing - your ending was weak or didn't fit the story
  • Content issues - too much violence, sex, or profanity
  • No speculative element - your fantasy or sci-fi element was not present, introduced too late, or was insufficient
  • Your story was for children - We're OK with YA, but you sent us something for middle grade or lower
  • Politics and Religion - Your story depended too heavily on real-world politics, was better suited to a devotional market, or spent too much time trying to advance a particular religious or political agenda
You may have noticed some overlap between DQ and RWC, so let me unpack that.
 
RWC means "We liked it, but..."
DQ means "Absolutely not."
 
RWC means "Ok, a few too many f-bombs here," or "please scale back that sex scene."
DQ means "Do you know any words that don't start with f?" or "0.o - WTH did I just read? Whatever it was, don't submit it again."
 
RWC means "You sent us a nice haunted house story for 4th graders."
DQ means "You sent us a picture book for four year-olds."
 
In short, RWC is fixable, for the most part. DQ is not.*
 
In terms of quality, RWC stories are somewhere near the border between HM and R. If you've been getting straight Rs, RWC will help you fine tune your craft so you can hit that HM mark. If you've been frustrated that you can't get more than HM, RWC will help you figure out why.
 
For Q1, the RWC category is small, fewer than a hundred stories, and mostly for Failure to Launch. We expect to use RWC more heavily in future quarters.
Cheers,
Kary

* Except for your name. If you get DQed for leaving your name on it, fix it and resubmit it.

WOTF: 1 HM, 1 Semi, 2 Finalists, 1 Winner
Q2,V31 - Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!
Hugo and Astounding finalist, made the preliminary Stoker ballot (juried)
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Posted : May 1, 2022 1:22 pm
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Yelena
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The wait was already worth it but this REALLY makes all the waiting worthwhile. Thank you for these amazing changes! I know this means so much more work for the staff but wow am I super grateful, especially for the potential at getting comments on rejected stories! 

V36:Q3 HM V37: Q3 R, Q4 SHM V38: R,HM, F, HM V39: HM, SHM, SHM, SHM V40: SF, RWC, ?

 
Posted : May 1, 2022 1:53 pm
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mikewyantjr
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That's amazing, Kary. I can only imagine how much this is going to help folks in the future. Smile

WotF Results:

R:6
HM:17
SHM:1
SF:3
F:0
Last: SF, Q2 v41

 
Posted : May 1, 2022 1:53 pm
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Cray Dimensional
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Thank you Kary. I love the new guidelines. 

Small steps add up to miles.
V38: R, R, HM, HM
V39: RWC, HM, HM, SHM
V40 : HM, RWC, R, HM
V41 : RWC, P
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Posted : May 1, 2022 2:07 pm
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@karyenglish These a great new features to story returns, and should be very helpful to aspiring writers. Thanks, Kary!

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Posted : May 1, 2022 2:19 pm
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crlisle
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This is awesome!

Vol. 36: 3rd -- R, 4th -- R
Vol. 37: 1st -- R, 2nd -- HM, 3rd -- HM, 4th -- SHM
Vol. 38: 1st -- HM, 2nd -- HM, 3rd -- HM, 4th -- HM
Vol. 39: 1st -- SHM, 2nd -- RWC, 3rd -- RWC, 4th -- HM
Vol. 40: 1st -- HM, 2nd -- R, 3rd -- RWC, 4th -- R
Vol. 41: 1st - R, 2nd -- pending, 3rd -- WIP

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Posted : May 1, 2022 2:20 pm
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Wow, this is fantastic! Thank you!!

v35: Q4 - HM
V36: R, R, R, R
V37: SHM, HM, HM, SHM
V38: SHM, HM, HM, HM
V39: HM, R, SHM, HM
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Posted : May 1, 2022 2:27 pm
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Henckel
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Too cool!

Thank you 

WOTF Stats
(2014) V31 – R
(2018) V35 – HM
(2019) V36 – HM, SHM
(2020) V37 – R, HM, SHM, Finalist
(2021) V38 – SF, SHM, SHM, HM
(2022) V39 – HM, SHM, SHM, SHM
(2023) V40 - HM, SF, tba, tba

 
Posted : May 1, 2022 3:53 pm
Scott_M_Sands
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Posted by: @karyenglish

WTH did I just read? Whatever it was, don't submit it again."

That's brilliant. Had me laughing out loud.

Thank you kindly for this update, Kary. Very generous. I'm sure it will help many new writers.

"If writing is easy, you're doing it wrong." -Bryan Hutchinson
V36-37: R x6
V38: R, HM, R, HM
V39: HM, HM, HM, HM
V40: HM

 
Posted : May 1, 2022 8:34 pm
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 TimE
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Thanks, Kary. I appreciate you making the extra effort required for this.

?

 
Posted : May 2, 2022 1:18 am
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HermioneLee
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Thank you Kary! It really helps new writers a lot

V37: R, R, R, R
V38: R, R, HM, R
V39:

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Posted : May 2, 2022 2:48 am
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storysinger
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Thanks for the information Kary.

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HM x5
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Posted : May 2, 2022 3:37 am
David Hankins
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Thanks Kary! We really appreciate the work you do to help the contest entrants. These new categories will be really helpful. 

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Posted : May 2, 2022 3:40 am
Todd Jones
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Nice improvement!   I can see this being extremely helpful.

Thank you for the continued support.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right."~ Henry Ford
2024 - V41 - Q1-RWC, Q2-Submitted, Q3-WIP, Q4-?
2023 - V40 - Q1-HM, Q2-HM, Q3-R, Q4-HM
2022 - V39 - Q1-SHM, Q2-HM, Q3-SF, Q4-HM
2021 - V38 - Q4-HM
2020 - V37 - Q2-R

 
Posted : May 2, 2022 10:21 am
Cherrie
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These are great new categories! Thanks Kary! 

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Posted : May 2, 2022 10:34 am
James (Ease)
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@karyenglish, that sounds like a lot of extra work! You guys are crazy!

Now the question is, for those with the rest of the alphabet soup (R, HM, SHM, SF, F, and P), will you be tempted to deliberately collect a DQ and an RWC?

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Past submissions: R - HM - HM - HM - HM - HM - SHM - SHM
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Posted : May 2, 2022 10:44 am
empressed
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This will help so many people! You all are awesome!

Victoria Dixon
Author of Mourn Their Courage
a 2010 Sandy Writing Contest Finalist
A Tribble Ate My Lunch: a Star Trek Cookbook (unpublished)
R=24
HM= 8
SHM=4
Finalist=1

 
Posted : May 2, 2022 2:09 pm
Disgruntled Peony
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Posted by: @ease

@karyenglish, that sounds like a lot of extra work! You guys are crazy!

Now the question is, for those with the rest of the alphabet soup (R, HM, SHM, SF, F, and P), will you be tempted to deliberately collect a DQ and an RWC?

That seems a bit extreme to me, but the prospect is amusing. laughing  

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Posted : May 2, 2022 5:15 pm
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Sinsyne
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This is a clever and efficient approach. When rejecting a story, you will in the moment have an idea what it lacked, and putting the most common reasons for rejection in a list you can place a checkmark next to gives an excellent ratio of valuable feedback:extra work.

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Posted : May 3, 2022 1:07 am
chuckt
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How very nice. Thanks.

Chuck Thompson
6 Rs, 5 HMs, 2 SHMs

 
Posted : May 3, 2022 8:52 am
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Posted by: @ease

@karyenglish, that sounds like a lot of extra work! You guys are crazy!

Watching from the outside, I can say that they designed it for the LEAST extra work possible. That’s why you don’t get a specific cause of failure, you get a list of the most common causes of failure. (It’s up to you to decide which cause applies to your story.) They don’t do this for every story, just stories that show promise. So the extra work is something like, “Oh, so close! Put this in the comment folder instead of the rejection folder.”

The extra work is more than zero; but they really thought about how to minimize it.

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Posted : May 3, 2022 11:07 am
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JAbecker
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That's an absolutely awesome addition to the contest. It can totally help people improve. Form R's are so hard to learn something from.

It's almost like a bronze honorable mention, in a way.

 
Posted : May 3, 2022 8:45 pm
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This is so helpful and so very generous, especially considering all that the contest does for entrants already. Thank you very much for this addition.

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Edit without mercy.

......................................................................................................................
V38 1Q NA 2Q SHM 3Q R 4Q HM
V39 1Q NA 2Q SHM 3Q HM 4Q RWC
V40 1Q SHM 2Q SHM 3Q SHM 4Q HM
V41 1Q TBD

 
Posted : May 5, 2022 3:08 pm
Kary English
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Posted by: @jabecker

That's an absolutely awesome addition to the contest. It can totally help people improve. Form R's are so hard to learn something from.

It's almost like a bronze honorable mention, in a way.

Definitely!  RWC means we saw something promising, something we wanted to encourage in addition to whatever caused us to flag it for RWC.

WOTF: 1 HM, 1 Semi, 2 Finalists, 1 Winner
Q2,V31 - Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!
Hugo and Astounding finalist, made the preliminary Stoker ballot (juried)
Published by Galaxy's Edge, DSF, StarShipSofa and TorNightfire

 
Posted : May 5, 2022 5:23 pm
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Rey Nichols
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Doing my quarterly forum lurk and I’m really excited for these changes Smile

SHM: 1
HM: 9
R: 1
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Posted : May 10, 2022 7:17 am
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@karyenglish Thank you for all the helpful information!

 
Posted : May 10, 2022 6:31 pm
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Cray Dimensional
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I looks like I got the new category a RWC. Maybe I should run the by my writing group.

Small steps add up to miles.
V38: R, R, HM, HM
V39: RWC, HM, HM, SHM
V40 : HM, RWC, R, HM
V41 : RWC, P
"Amore For Life" in After the Gold Rush Third Flatiron Anthology
"Freedom’s Song” in Troubadour and Space Princesses LTUE Anthology
"Experimenting with the Dance of Death" Coming in Jun '24 in Love is Complicated LUV Romance Anthology.

 
Posted : May 19, 2022 6:05 pm
storysinger
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I got a DNP (did not place) and an offer to purchase the anthology.

Today's science fiction is tomorrow's reality-D.R.Sweeney
HM x5
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Posted : May 20, 2022 7:11 am
czing
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I know this isn't quite on topic exactly, but this change which is great by the way, got me thinking about what has changed in the time I've been submitting and part of my brain insists that it has just been a couple years since you @karyenglish started being the first reader. But then I questioned whether it is just that weird time compression/time expansion thing that has marked the last couple of years. And also questioning whether I remember an announcement about that or if I'm mixing it up with something else.

So do you mind sharing when you started as first reader?

(Also I admit I have a re-worked story I'm thinking about submitting but might use something else if you would have definitely seen it before)

v36 Q1, Q3 - HM; Q4 - R
v37 Q1 - R; Q2 - SHM; Q4 - HM
v38 Q1 - HM; Q2 - SHM; Q3 - HM; Q4 - HM
v39 Q1 - SHM; Q3 - HM; Q4 -RWC
v40 Q1, Q2 - HM; Q3 - Pending

 
Posted : May 29, 2022 8:56 pm
Dustin Adams
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Extra! Extra! Read all about it:

https://www.writersofthefuture.com/writers-of-the-future-taps-kary-english-as-new-first-reader/

(I'm not really so old I remember those times or anything. Just sounded like a fun thing to write)

Career:

1x Win
2x NW-F
2x S-F
9x S-HM
11x HM
7x R

 
Posted : May 30, 2022 2:52 am
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