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Cray Dimensional
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Posted by: @rschibler

No News is No News. And with the gala at the end of October, this year is more of a wild card than usual. Butt in chair, hands on keyboard, ignore all else! Smile

Brutal, just brutal laughing  

Small steps add up to miles.
V38: R, R, P

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Posted : September 9, 2021 9:08 pm
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czing
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You can't make me ignore all else. I am going to curl up in my blankie fort with my cocoa and speculate about results. But I'll bring a notebook and pen with me!

v36 Q1, Q3 - HM; Q4 - R
v37 Q1 - R; Q2 - SHM; Q4 - HM
v38 Q1 - HM; Q2 -SHM; Q3 - P

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Posted : September 9, 2021 10:28 pm
RETreasure
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Fair! I was talking to myself more than anyone else. I can’t believe we don’t have a twitch emoji! 

V34: R,HM,R
V35: HM,R,R,HM
V36: R,HM,HM,SHM
V37: HM,SF,SHM,SHM
V38: F, SHM, P, P
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Posted : September 10, 2021 5:14 am
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hilarious waiting  

Today's science fiction is tomorrow's reality-D.R.Sweeney
HM-V32/Q3
HM-V36/Q4
HM-V38/Q1

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Posted : September 10, 2021 5:20 am
Disgruntled Peony
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It's probably going to be a long haul, but that makes the following even more necessary:

*sets up pillow/blanket fort, a table with coffee and hot chocolate, and a secret-but-not-really table with supplies for people who like their coffee or hot chocolate a little Irish*

If you are in difficulties with a book, try the element of surprise: attack it at an hour when it isn't expecting it. ~ H.G. Wells
R, SF, SHM, SHM, SHM, F, R, HM, SHM, R, HM, R, F, SHM, SHM, SHM, SF, SHM, 1st Place (Q2 V38)
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Posted : September 10, 2021 7:00 am
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Physa/ Guthington/ Amy
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@disgruntledpeony That's so nice of you! As it gets closer to the Q4 deadline it's hard not to at least wonder when results will come in... I'm doing my best to stay busy and work on writing. 

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Posted : September 10, 2021 7:19 am
RETreasure
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*crawls into the fort*

V34: R,HM,R
V35: HM,R,R,HM
V36: R,HM,HM,SHM
V37: HM,SF,SHM,SHM
V38: F, SHM, P, P
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Posted : September 10, 2021 4:45 pm
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dommichaels
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Haha. I wrote my Q3, over 12K words, in a few days. Not a bad story, but a little rambling and not a polished effort, so I have low expectations and no twitching. But I've since rewritten it, and plan to put in the new and improved version for Q4. New opening, new ending, much tighter, and a new title. May be a complete fail, but I've put too much effort into it not to give it another shot. 

Good luck, all! I'm sure some forumites will be in the running for Q3, as always. 

V37 Q3 - HM, V37 Q4 - HM, V38 Q1 - HM, V38 Q2 - HM

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Posted : September 10, 2021 8:06 pm
Wulf Moon
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Posted by: @craydimensional

@wulfmoon Any idea how late the results will be in? Beginning Oct?

I wouldn't look for results until right around the gala or after. So go write your winning Q4 and fogetaboudit. Smile

 

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Posted : September 11, 2021 7:03 pm
earthkeeper
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You guys are all making me want to build a fort now too while I wait. I'm not really too concerned, but still...you want to know just to get the jitters out, am I right?

"Trust is like a shop. Difficult to build, but surprisingly easy to ruin. But when it is strong and true, there are few things in this world that make you feel stronger."
V37: HM
V38: X,R,P

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Posted : September 11, 2021 7:57 pm
Disgruntled Peony
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Posted by: @earthkeeper78

You guys are all making me want to build a fort now too while I wait. I'm not really too concerned, but still...you want to know just to get the jitters out, am I right?

The fort is infinitely large--you're absolutely welcome to join whenever. grinning  

If you are in difficulties with a book, try the element of surprise: attack it at an hour when it isn't expecting it. ~ H.G. Wells
R, SF, SHM, SHM, SHM, F, R, HM, SHM, R, HM, R, F, SHM, SHM, SHM, SF, SHM, 1st Place (Q2 V38)
Ticknor Tales

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Posted : September 12, 2021 6:44 am
Cray Dimensional
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Can I join you in the fort? I’ll bring some fruit. (I would bring cookies, but I am trying to cut down on sweets.)

Small steps add up to miles.
V38: R, R, P

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Posted : September 12, 2021 8:37 am
czing
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I like fruit! I can have some as I edit, edit, edit, and hold my breath (but don't know I'm holding it) for results that are a long time away. The fort knows no boundaries on what it can contain :). Jitters AND writing AND editing AND contemplating AND percolating (coffee and ideas) AND snacking AND AND AND.

v36 Q1, Q3 - HM; Q4 - R
v37 Q1 - R; Q2 - SHM; Q4 - HM
v38 Q1 - HM; Q2 -SHM; Q3 - P

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Posted : September 12, 2021 9:45 am
Doc Honour
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Posted by: @wulfmoon

I wouldn't look for results until right around the gala or after. So go write your winning Q4 and fogetaboudit. Smile

 

"Fogetaboudit" sounds right to me. If WotF were the only thing I was doing, then perhaps I'd be biting my nails. But no, I just keep on writing and I keep on submitting to the mags. My crit groups like my stories and keep encouraging me. Now, if I can only get that attitude somehow infused into the editors.

Got two more rejections today. Hey, perhaps there can be an award for who has the most rejections?

Write so long as words keep flowing...

2021 FWA RPLA: Fx2

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Posted : September 13, 2021 5:10 pm
Scott_M_Sands
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Posted by: @ehonour

Got two more rejections today. Hey, perhaps there can be an award for who has the most rejections?

Not sure how may you've got (perhaps it wouldn't be helpful to compare).

But I was listening to Ace Antonio Hall on the WotF podcast. He got dozens and dozens of rejections, before publishing multiple short stories. Others I'm told, have several hundred rejections...

In any case, let's keep polishing and keep sending them out!

"Many people will tell you that you can't write. Let no one say that you don't." -Ken Rand
V36-37: R x6
V38: R, HM, P

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Posted : September 13, 2021 11:26 pm
Scott_M_Sands
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@craydimensional 

I'm with ya, Cray. If I'm not careful I can oversnack while writing. had to take to chewing gum for a bit, just to stop the nasty snackies.

 

"Many people will tell you that you can't write. Let no one say that you don't." -Ken Rand
V36-37: R x6
V38: R, HM, P

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Posted : September 13, 2021 11:27 pm
MountainSpud
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Posted by: @scott_m_sands

let's keep polishing and keep sending them out!

Hear! Hear!

R X 3
HM X 3
SHM X 1

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Posted : September 14, 2021 1:32 am
RETreasure
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@ehonour the local writing guild gives an award for the writer with the most annual rejections. I aim for 100 a year. 

That being said, there’s also nothing wrong with subbing less frequently or taking a break between subs. Everyone is different and I don’t want anyone to feel pressured into a frenetic pace of subbing if that isn’t how you work. We’re all on our own paths. 

V34: R,HM,R
V35: HM,R,R,HM
V36: R,HM,HM,SHM
V37: HM,SF,SHM,SHM
V38: F, SHM, P, P
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Posted : September 14, 2021 7:59 am
Wulf Moon
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@ehonour Ken Liu was invited to submit to an anthology on stories receiving the most rejections. His story beat all the others in most rejections earned by a landslide. Ken Liu! 

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Posted : September 14, 2021 10:03 am
Doc Honour
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Posted by: @rschibler

@ehonour the local writing guild gives an award for the writer with the most annual rejections. I aim for 100 a year. 

Ah, good. You and Wulf give me encouragement. I'm nowhere near 100 per year yet.

Write so long as words keep flowing...

2021 FWA RPLA: Fx2

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Posted : September 14, 2021 11:21 am
Disgruntled Peony
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Posted by: @craydimensional

Can I join you in the fort? I’ll bring some fruit. (I would bring cookies, but I am trying to cut down on sweets.)

Of course! I'm trying to cut back on sweets myself, lately. Smile

If you are in difficulties with a book, try the element of surprise: attack it at an hour when it isn't expecting it. ~ H.G. Wells
R, SF, SHM, SHM, SHM, F, R, HM, SHM, R, HM, R, F, SHM, SHM, SHM, SF, SHM, 1st Place (Q2 V38)
Ticknor Tales

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Posted : September 14, 2021 5:32 pm
Physa/ Guthington/ Amy
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As per Dave's class last night, Q3 results are delayed due to an overscheduled Dave most likely due to the upcoming October Gala. So the fort should include nice quiet rooms for writing fresh stories, a nice big theater to show movies for inspiration, a huge library filled with great works of fantasy and science fiction also for inspiration, and a room filled with inspirational pictures, writing prompts, and stirring music. It's going to be a long wait folks, but it's nice to wait with friends. And as I said previously, I much prefer the not knowing over getting a rejection email... In the not knowing I can imagine all possibilities!

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Posted : September 15, 2021 7:31 am
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storysinger
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Posted by: @physa

As per Dave's class last night, Q3 results are delayed due to an overscheduled Dave most likely due to the upcoming October Gala. So the fort should include nice quiet rooms for writing fresh stories, a nice big theater to show movies for inspiration, a huge library filled with great works of fantasy and science fiction also for inspiration, and a room filled with inspirational pictures, writing prompts, and stirring music. It's going to be a long wait folks, but it's nice to wait with friends. And as I said previously, I much prefer the not knowing over getting a rejection email... In the not knowing I can imagine all possibilities!

Maybe he is wanting to catch us by surprise. shrug We can only hope.

Today's science fiction is tomorrow's reality-D.R.Sweeney
HM-V32/Q3
HM-V36/Q4
HM-V38/Q1

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Posted : September 15, 2021 7:52 am
Álex Souza
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@wulfmoon Do you have any idea how many rejections that was?

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Posted : September 15, 2021 9:02 am
Wulf Moon
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@storysinger No, don’t expect results until just before the gala, or likely after. 

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NEW! Don't miss the Super Secret "Character Agency: I Need a Hero!" in DreamForge Anvil Magazine!
JUST RELEASED! BEST OF DEEP MAGIC ANTHOLOGY TWO! Three Super Secrets Workshop members made it into this best of the best anthology! KD Julicher, Brittany Rainsdon, and some guy named Wulf Moon. Click HERE to get yours!
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Posted : September 15, 2021 1:48 pm
Wulf Moon
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@alexvss I did write it down from his interview at Norwescon. Dare you to dig through all my notebooks in my office to find it. 😁

BTW, Ken had quit writing after winning WotF. Got discouraged by so many rejections after. Quit for six years, as I recall. And then the editor of this crazy antho contacted him, seeking to publish the most rejected stories. That lit a fire for him, and the rest is history. Believe it, or not. 😊

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"Super-Duper Moongirl and the Amazing Moon Dawdler" wins WRITERS OF THE FUTURE VOL. 35 & BEST SF&F STORY OF 2019. Order WotF Volume 35 HERE!
“Muzik Man" in Deep Magic Fall 2020 wins BEST SF&F STORY of 2020
NEW! Don't miss the Super Secret "Character Agency: I Need a Hero!" in DreamForge Anvil Magazine!
JUST RELEASED! BEST OF DEEP MAGIC ANTHOLOGY TWO! Three Super Secrets Workshop members made it into this best of the best anthology! KD Julicher, Brittany Rainsdon, and some guy named Wulf Moon. Click HERE to get yours!
NEXT MASTER CLASSES AT FYRECON ONLINE, NOV. 18-21ST. Click HERE before they are sold out once again!

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Posted : September 15, 2021 1:50 pm
AliciaCay
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Posted by: @alexvss

@wulfmoon Do you have any idea how many rejections that was?

Hey @alexvss,

I found this interview that Clarkesworld Science Fiction and Fantasy Magazine did with Liu, where he talks about that anthology, and how he did quit submitting after two professional sales and went off to become a lawyer insted.

Here's the link to that article. It's really lovely.
https://clarkesworldmagazine.com/liu_interview_2020/

In the interview, Liu mentions the name of the anthology he submitted to, which I found online (it appears to have been posted by the editors themselves), that has links to all the stories, Liu's included, and the appendixes at the end where the editor gives some numbers.

Link to all the stories and appendixes:
http://thoughtcrime.crummy.com/2009/

Link to the appendix A with the general stats:
http://thoughtcrime.crummy.com/2009/AppendixA.html

The stats say only one story got NINE rejections. So, if Liu says his beat out all the other stories in number of rejections, then we could surmise that Liu's story was the one with nine rejections.

To that I say, my story that just sold to a pro-paying market at 8 cents a word was out on it's 16th submission and had earned me a Silver HM in the WotF contest from Dave.
I DID NOT update or tweak it from it's original submission to WotF. It was sent there first, earned me a Silver HM, and then I continued to send it out 15 more times.

I have a writing friend who won a name-worthy, big writing contest with a story that had been rejected from the top pro-paying markets FIFTEEN times. That author got paid pro-rates for that story, a gorgeous trophy, and additional prizes.

Also, in Kevin J. Anderson's new, little book: Slushpile Memories: How NOT to get rejected. He tells an anecdote about the very first writing award he ever won--it was for "The Writer with No Future" because he was able to produce by weight more rejection slips than any other writer at that convention. He goes on to say he took that trophy home as a badge of honor, more determined than ever to not give up.

I think the message from Liu and KJA are clear. Keep sending out your stories, keep writing new words, and never give up, never surrender. ♥

 

~A.

V32: HM (Q4)
V33: HM, HM, SHM, HM
V34: R, R, HM, HM
V35: HM, HM, R, HM
V36: R, R, SHM, R
V37: SHM, FINALIST, HM, SHM
V38: SF, X, tbd
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Posted : September 15, 2021 2:24 pm
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Joel C. Scoberg
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@wulfmoon 

Stories like Ken's help keep me motivated when the rejection emails arrive. Keep at it, work on your craft, and don't stop believing that you will succeed eventually. The only thing that will definitely stop you succeeding is if you stop writing. So, write, write, write, submit, submit, submit.

Oh, and talking about submitting...is there a deadline approaching or something giggle ?

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Posted : September 15, 2021 2:28 pm
Cray Dimensional
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Posted by: @physa

As per Dave's class last night, Q3 results are delayed due to an overscheduled Dave most likely due to the upcoming October Gala. So the fort should include nice quiet rooms for writing fresh stories, a nice big theater to show movies for inspiration, a huge library filled with great works of fantasy and science fiction also for inspiration, and a room filled with inspirational pictures, writing prompts, and stirring music. It's going to be a long wait folks, but it's nice to wait with friends. And as I said previously, I much prefer the not knowing over getting a rejection email... In the not knowing I can imagine all possibilities!

Will need some room for iPad, and Computer to write 1ST QTR v39. I just submitted 4th QTR v38.

Small steps add up to miles.
V38: R, R, P

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Posted : September 15, 2021 3:39 pm
Álex Souza
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@aliciacay Wow, some scavenging you did there! Thanks!

Liu's experience with rejection reminded of what Mary Robinette Kowal says at the end of Writing Excuses' episode on short-story markets (give it a listen, it's super short). She talks about how writers get overconfident after selling two stories: they think that they had it all figured out. But they just stop selling because they're too focused on the craft, rather than putting their hearts in the stories. Liu's interview sounded just like that. 

 

 

In for V38 Q3 and Q4.
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Slush reader for The Common Tongue Magazine.
Debut short-story "Invisible Bodies" published in HyphenPunk.

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Posted : September 15, 2021 6:09 pm
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