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HM for me!

Q1 Vol36: HM
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Posted : September 30, 2019 1:22 pm
Wulf Moon
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Two Silver HMs in here! Congratulations! You know from my post above how high of caliber those were considered this time! There's a third Forumite with a Silver as well, but that person doesn't comment here much these days. And remember, semifinalists come later now, so we still await to hear on those, and of course, our Finalists.

Best of success! Send those Silvers out to market! They have much potential in view of their ranking. Not that the other stories that got honors do not--send them out to markets!--but you got a gold star from Dave! He said your story was primo! That should be a great motivator.

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Posted : October 1, 2019 10:28 am
Eagerink
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It occurred to me that now that the rules for pro-ing out are eight cents per word... perhaps some people who would have previously been disqualified entered this quarter. Not Sure how I feel about that, except that I hope they pro-out again soon, lol.

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Posted : October 1, 2019 10:39 am
Disgruntled Peony
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It occurred to me that now that the rules for pro-ing out are eight cents per word... perhaps some people who would have previously been disqualified entered this quarter. Not Sure how I feel about that, except that I hope they pro-out again soon, lol.

I could be wrong, but I would personally assume anything sold at previous pro rates would still count as a pro sale?

If you are in difficulties with a book, try the element of surprise: attack it at an hour when it isn't expecting it. ~ H.G. Wells
R, SF, SHM, SHM, SHM, F, R, HM, SHM, R, HM, R, F, SHM, SHM, SHM, SF, SHM, 1st Place (Q2 V38)
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Posted : October 1, 2019 10:46 am
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It occurred to me that now that the rules for pro-ing out are eight cents per word... perhaps some people who would have previously been disqualified entered this quarter. Not Sure how I feel about that, except that I hope they pro-out again soon, lol.

I could be wrong, but I would personally assume anything sold at previous pro rates would still count as a pro sale?

Correct.

I do wonder what exactly counts as pro though. Is it solely the rates? I got the impression it wasn't always from threads I read a while ago. If I sold 3 flash pieces at pro rates, for example, would that disqualify me? What if none of those sales were to speculative markets? I know Joni is best for these sort of questions, so maybe I should wait until I'm a closer to that stage...

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Posted : October 1, 2019 11:01 am
Wulf Moon
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It occurred to me that now that the rules for pro-ing out are eight cents per word... perhaps some people who would have previously been disqualified entered this quarter. Not Sure how I feel about that, except that I hope they pro-out again soon, lol.

I had the same discomfort, Eagerink, and I did talk to WotF about the ramifications. They did not change their wording, alas. Their contest. : )

It just goes back to writing the best story you have in you, and forgetting about the competition.

Hard to do at times, I know.

Best,

Moon

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Posted : October 1, 2019 11:07 am
Disgruntled Peony
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It occurred to me that now that the rules for pro-ing out are eight cents per word... perhaps some people who would have previously been disqualified entered this quarter. Not Sure how I feel about that, except that I hope they pro-out again soon, lol.

I could be wrong, but I would personally assume anything sold at previous pro rates would still count as a pro sale?

Correct.

I do wonder what exactly counts as pro though. Is it solely the rates? I got the impression it wasn't always from threads I read a while ago. If I sold 3 flash pieces at pro rates, for example, would that disqualify me? What if none of those sales were to speculative markets? I know Joni is best for these sort of questions, so maybe I should wait until I'm a closer to that stage...

From what I understand based on former discussions with people in the know, anything under 1k doesn't count. I'm definitely under the impression they'd need to be fiction. I know that in the past they had to be sold to SFWA qualifying markets or get 5000 hits, but the SFWA clause doesn't seem to be in the rules any more.

If you are in difficulties with a book, try the element of surprise: attack it at an hour when it isn't expecting it. ~ H.G. Wells
R, SF, SHM, SHM, SHM, F, R, HM, SHM, R, HM, R, F, SHM, SHM, SHM, SF, SHM, 1st Place (Q2 V38)
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Posted : October 1, 2019 11:11 am
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Wulf Moon wrote:

There's a third Forumite with a Silver as well, but that person doesn't comment here much these days.

Hi Moon,

I've never commented much on the quarterly discussion threads - just a twitch or two on relevant Thursdays.

The result for my Q3, V36 entry is my first SHM and eleventh placement overall in the contest. It's already out to the next market. Every story, no matter the WotF result, gets the same submission treatment. My formula for deciding on markets is: Who pays the most for a story like this? As you know, that's the business.

Best of luck to everyone. Learn... perfect... persist.

Kent

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Posted : October 1, 2019 5:45 pm
Eagerink
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It occurred to me that now that the rules for pro-ing out are eight cents per word... perhaps some people who would have previously been disqualified entered this quarter. Not Sure how I feel about that, except that I hope they pro-out again soon, lol.

I could be wrong, but I would personally assume anything sold at previous pro rates would still count as a pro sale?

I know I would count it as that, but as Wulf says, it's not in the wording, so we just have to write the best stories we can Smile

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Posted : October 1, 2019 7:20 pm
Wulf Moon
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Wulf Moon wrote:

There's a third Forumite with a Silver as well, but that person doesn't comment here much these days.

Hi Moon,

I've never commented much on the quarterly discussion threads - just a twitch or two on relevant Thursdays.

The result for my Q3, V36 entry is my first SHM and eleventh placement overall in the contest. It's already out to the next market. Every story, no matter the WotF result, gets the same submission treatment. My formula for deciding on markets is: Who pays the most for a story like this? As you know, that's the business.

Best of luck to everyone. Learn... perfect... persist.

Kent[/quote

Congrats on your Silver HM, Kent. This round, those are exceptionally strong, I'm told. Glad you already sent it out. I'll be curious to hear how these SHMs do as they make the rounds.

Cheers!

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Posted : October 1, 2019 8:39 pm
Disgruntled Peony
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Wulf Moon wrote:

There's a third Forumite with a Silver as well, but that person doesn't comment here much these days.

Hi Moon,

I've never commented much on the quarterly discussion threads - just a twitch or two on relevant Thursdays.

The result for my Q3, V36 entry is my first SHM and eleventh placement overall in the contest. It's already out to the next market. Every story, no matter the WotF result, gets the same submission treatment. My formula for deciding on markets is: Who pays the most for a story like this? As you know, that's the business.

Best of luck to everyone. Learn... perfect... persist.

Kent

Awesome news, Kent! wotf007 wotf010

If you are in difficulties with a book, try the element of surprise: attack it at an hour when it isn't expecting it. ~ H.G. Wells
R, SF, SHM, SHM, SHM, F, R, HM, SHM, R, HM, R, F, SHM, SHM, SHM, SF, SHM, 1st Place (Q2 V38)
Ticknor Tales

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Posted : October 1, 2019 10:49 pm
AlexH
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I could be wrong, but I would personally assume anything sold at previous pro rates would still count as a pro sale?

Correct.

I do wonder what exactly counts as pro though. Is it solely the rates? I got the impression it wasn't always from threads I read a while ago. If I sold 3 flash pieces at pro rates, for example, would that disqualify me? What if none of those sales were to speculative markets? I know Joni is best for these sort of questions, so maybe I should wait until I'm a closer to that stage...

From what I understand based on former discussions with people in the know, anything under 1k doesn't count. I'm definitely under the impression they'd need to be fiction. I know that in the past they had to be sold to SFWA qualifying markets or get 5000 hits, but the SFWA clause doesn't seem to be in the rules any more.

That's what I thought too - it was re-reading the rules before submission that made me wonder again. If I do happen to sell two flash pieces at pro-rates without winning WotF, I'll double-check with Joni. Should that situation arise in the next year, I'd like to give WotF at least another couple of years before pro-ing out.

35: - R R R | 36: R HM R R | 37: HM HM HM SHM | 38: HM HM

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Posted : October 2, 2019 12:35 am
storysinger
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Congratulations on the silver Kent. Once again persistence pays off.

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Posted : October 2, 2019 2:40 am
LoyalRam
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My first post ever. I submitted a story a month or so ago. Have they already decided the winners? If so, is there a place to go to see a ranking of some sort?

"Art is not a handicraft, it is the transmission of feeling the artist has experienced." ~ Leo Tolstoy

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Posted : October 2, 2019 3:24 am
Disgruntled Peony
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My first post ever. I submitted a story a month or so ago. Have they already decided the winners? If so, is there a place to go to see a ranking of some sort?

If you submitted a month ago, you're in for the 4th quarter. We'll probably get results from that quarter back closer to December.

If you are in difficulties with a book, try the element of surprise: attack it at an hour when it isn't expecting it. ~ H.G. Wells
R, SF, SHM, SHM, SHM, F, R, HM, SHM, R, HM, R, F, SHM, SHM, SHM, SF, SHM, 1st Place (Q2 V38)
Ticknor Tales

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Posted : October 2, 2019 3:53 am
StarReacher
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This is my first post on this thread. New to posting but I've been lurking for about 2 years now.

Thrilled to report I got a SHM this quarter!! Yippee. My second in the contest.

This group rocks and I have gotten so much out of everyone's posts (both the agonies and the victories). Plus all the great advice. Looking forward to getting to know everyone.

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Posted : October 2, 2019 11:42 am
czing
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Congrats on the SHM Kent and StarReacher

v36 Q1, Q3 - HM; Q4 - R
v37 Q1 - R; Q2 - SHM; Q4 - HM
v38 Q1 - HM; Q2 -SHM; Q3 - P

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Posted : October 2, 2019 1:23 pm
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Congrats Kent, SR, and all the other placers! wotf009

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V33 (-- HM SHM R), V34 (SF R R HM),
V35 (HM R R R), V36 (R HM F HM),
V37 (SF HM HM HM), V38 (HM HM, Q3-Pending)
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Posted : October 2, 2019 2:39 pm
Wulf Moon
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This is my first post on this thread. New to posting but I've been lurking for about 2 years now.

Thrilled to report I got a SHM this quarter!! Yippee. My second in the contest.

This group rocks and I have gotten so much out of everyone's posts (both the agonies and the victories). Plus all the great advice. Looking forward to getting to know everyone.

Welcome, StarReacher. You sure know how to make an entrance! Congrats on your silver! Scrape the surface. You'll find there's gold underneath.

Cheers!

Moon

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Posted : October 2, 2019 4:37 pm
kentagions
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Moon Wrote:

I'll be curious to hear how these SHMs do as they make the rounds.

My Q3 Silver Honorable Mention story has now received three form rejections from Clarkesworld (3 days), Asimov's (1 day), and F&SF (8 days). It is now off to another market.

For those interested, this is fairly usual for these magazines. Rejections are like cracks in a sidewalk, you see them all the time but they should never stop you.

Find out who pays the most. Read recent copies of the publications. Read and meticulously follow their submission guidelines. Submit. Document your submission. Wait.

Best of luck,
Kent

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Posted : October 12, 2019 5:44 am
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My Q3 Silver Honorable Mention story has now received three form rejections from Clarkesworld (3 days), Asimov's (1 day), and F&SF (8 days). It is now off to another market.

Kent - best of luck finding the right home for your story. Keep submitting! Those current response times are really helpful. I'm wrapping up a new piece and was debating which of those three markets to submit to first. Good to know they aren't overwhelmed at the moment.

Cheers,
Ari

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Posted : October 12, 2019 10:07 am
storysinger
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Your persistence is bound to pay off Kent. Keep up the good work. wotf010

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HM-V32/Q3
HM-V36/Q4
HM-V38/Q1

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Posted : October 12, 2019 11:29 am
Reigheena
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Getting back reader's responses for my Q3 entry. Nice to see such a clear reason for the R - the beginning was too confusing. I can fix that.

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Posted : October 14, 2019 3:10 am
Disgruntled Peony
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Getting back reader's responses for my Q3 entry. Nice to see such a clear reason for the R - the beginning was too confusing. I can fix that.

Woot! Feedback is good.

I've just been sending mine out elsewhere, R or no. Probably should take time to look it over at some point, but it's possible it's just not marketable as a short story to begin with. I could easily use it as the seed for a novel, and it would probably do better as part of a longer tale.

If you are in difficulties with a book, try the element of surprise: attack it at an hour when it isn't expecting it. ~ H.G. Wells
R, SF, SHM, SHM, SHM, F, R, HM, SHM, R, HM, R, F, SHM, SHM, SHM, SF, SHM, 1st Place (Q2 V38)
Ticknor Tales

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Posted : October 14, 2019 3:37 am
storysinger
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My Q3 story idea was on Dave's instant reject list so probably doomed to fail. Hope it works out for reigheena.

Today's science fiction is tomorrow's reality-D.R.Sweeney
HM-V32/Q3
HM-V36/Q4
HM-V38/Q1

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Posted : October 14, 2019 4:15 am
AlexH
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My Q3 story idea was on Dave's instant reject list so probably doomed to fail. Hope it works out for reigheena.

I have two R's under consideration at pro markets. The only changes to one were line edits. The other, I fixed something I thought was a flaw and changed a few other things after a critique. They may still get rejected, but you don't know if you don't send them out! Though I do think it's good to sit on stories sometimes and return to them with fresh eyes (which I had with the flaw story).

35: - R R R | 36: R HM R R | 37: HM HM HM SHM | 38: HM HM

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Posted : October 14, 2019 7:19 am
JVAshley
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I am debating how and where to send my HM stories. They tend to run 7-8K except for one flash-is piece which might be too odd to find a home. And the professional markets tend to want new authors to stay in the 5K range. Do any of you know of professional markets that are more likely to look at a longer piece?

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Posted : October 15, 2019 2:16 am
RETreasure
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I recommend the submission grinder - it takes word count into consideration when it gives you available markets!

V34: R,HM,R
V35: HM,R,R,HM
V36: R,HM,HM,SHM
V37: HM,SF,SHM,SHM
V38: F, SHM, P, P
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Posted : October 15, 2019 2:29 am
JVAshley
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Thanks, RSchibler
I'll check that out right now.

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Posted : October 15, 2019 2:47 am
Disgruntled Peony
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I am debating how and where to send my HM stories. They tend to run 7-8K except for one flash-is piece which might be too odd to find a home. And the professional markets tend to want new authors to stay in the 5K range. Do any of you know of professional markets that are more likely to look at a longer piece?

F&SF is always a good option.

If you are in difficulties with a book, try the element of surprise: attack it at an hour when it isn't expecting it. ~ H.G. Wells
R, SF, SHM, SHM, SHM, F, R, HM, SHM, R, HM, R, F, SHM, SHM, SHM, SF, SHM, 1st Place (Q2 V38)
Ticknor Tales

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Posted : October 15, 2019 2:50 am
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