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Here's Your Chance to Watch a Vanity Press Squirm!

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Writers! Writer Beware, edited by Victoria Strauss and maintained by SFWA, is a great place to keep abreast of vanity presses and other scammers trying to take your money and leave you poorer and sadder. You should follow their social media and their blog.
You know they're on target when a vanity press troll shows up to libel Ms. Strauss. See the comment from Georgia Cadell, a.k.a. vanity press Author Unit.
With behavior like that, they should be famous!
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Posted : July 11, 2023 5:43 pm
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Thanks for the warning! Surprised  

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Posted : July 11, 2023 11:57 pm
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Yikes! Thanks, Martin. Over the last decade or so that I've been writing, I've discovered that the more desperate someone is to just get published, the more susceptible they become to getting scammed. Money should always flow TO the writer. Self-publishing is a viable route, and it's true you likely will pay for things like cover designs (support local artists!) and editing services (from legitimate editors). But there are so many free services out there, no one should ever feel the need to dive into shark-infested waters just to sell their work.

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Posted : July 12, 2023 5:39 am
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Going by that comment, I hope she doesn't use her own editing services. 


As for Google, just ignore anything with Sponsored by the link.

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Posted : July 12, 2023 5:41 am
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Posted by: @pdblake

As for Google, just ignore anything with Sponsored by the link.

There are times I search for something using the exact name (because I don't know the exact URL) and that thing I am searching for is not the top listing - because of a paid ad. So I second PDBlake's comment, and augment with don't automatically click the top option. It may not be the website you're looking for.



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Posted : July 17, 2023 3:06 am
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Thanks for posting this! I've had run-ins with a few vanity people, and have seen some other local writers really get screwed over by them in the past. It especially hurts when people take advantage of you with writing, as it's such an intimate part of yourself, too. Thanks again for the info. Always helps to be aware.

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Posted : July 17, 2023 6:19 pm
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Thanks for sharing the information it helped alot...

Posted : August 6, 2023 10:46 pm
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Posted by: @tj_knight

So I second PDBlake's comment, and augment with don't automatically click the top option. It may not be the website you're looking for.


I'm guilty of that. I've clicked the top option and was directed to a site I would normally never visit.


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Posted : August 7, 2023 1:36 pm
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Thanks for the warning. It will help others alot

Posted : August 8, 2023 11:02 pm