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DoctorJest
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Posted by: @disgruntledpeony

@doctorjest I totally get where you're coming from on this... I've done this dance myself, more than once. Having a critique group can help with this sometimes, because it gives an opportunity to get second opinions before it goes out to magazines, but in the end our own voice is the most important one to listen to--even more important than the editors that tell us how close we got, because one person's "not enough immersion in the POV" is another person's "the protagonist thinks too much". I hope this next round of edits goes well--my fingers are crossed for you. smiley  

Yeah, that's something I have always lacked--I rarely use readers for my stories, and I don't have a critique group, and I'm conscious of the fact that it's something that probably hurts rather than helps me in any tangible way.

I had what seemed like a logical reason for all that at first, as I wanted to hone my ability to read and critique my own work well. However, I don't think that's the reason why it continues--for whatever reason, even though I've managed to improve my confidence in many other areas of my life, I still struggle with some kind of social anxiety where this is concerned...sigh. In all fairness, this is probably the next thing I should take time to address as far as my writing is concerned--certainly, if I want this to be able to become a career of any sort, it's a piece of the puzzle I know I'm lacking, and one that I know has helped a number of writers I respect. 

That being said, I have gotten better at that self-critique thing over time, so...maybe? I'm sure there are writers I respect who don't do it too...almost always, there's a prominent, brilliant exception to the rule to be found. But when I think like that, I can feel my inner anxiety just searching for a reason to not have to do it...and I don't really think there's a great reason for me to toss aside a rather excellent tool on that account.

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Posted : May 25, 2021 4:37 pm
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Hi all, I know a rejection is just a rejection no matter what, but I was encouraged to get this one from Analog yesterday. It included the following line:

I rather like your style of writing and suggest that you try us again.

This was a pleasant surprise since I've only gotten the standard "it didn't strike me as quite right for our present needs" before from them, especially as I consider this to be my least science-y SF story (I almost didn't even send it to them for that reason). 

This reads as a higher tier form to me, but I can barely find anything about that online other than a couple of old posts on here calling rejections similar to this one personal. Either way, I'm glad they seem to have liked this one better than the handful of stories I've sent them before. Odd since this was my unrevised R from Q1, and my HM only got a standard form. I guess every market's a bit different. 

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Posted : June 16, 2021 8:32 pm
Disgruntled Peony
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Posted by: @ajschultz6

Hi all, I know a rejection is just a rejection no matter what, but I was encouraged to get this one from Analog yesterday. It included the following line:

I rather like your style of writing and suggest that you try us again.

This was a pleasant surprise since I've only gotten the standard "it didn't strike me as quite right for our present needs" before from them, especially as I consider this to be my least science-y SF story (I almost didn't even send it to them for that reason). 

This reads as a higher tier form to me, but I can barely find anything about that online other than a couple of old posts on here calling rejections similar to this one personal. Either way, I'm glad they seem to have liked this one better than the handful of stories I've sent them before. Odd since this was my unrevised R from Q1, and my HM only got a standard form. I guess every market's a bit different. 

R or not, that's impressive. Good job! It definitely reads like it's higher tier, whether form or personal, which means they noticed you. That's good stuff, right there.

Every market is definitely a bit different. I've had a hard time selling any of my finalists or semi-finalists; conversely, I've sold stories at other markets that got flat R's here. Everyone has different preferences, and short story venues are definitely no exception to that rule. grinning  

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Posted : June 16, 2021 10:12 pm
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Two personal rejections in a row from Beneath Ceaseless Skies. Still rejections but with less of a sting.

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Posted : July 23, 2021 9:02 pm
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@pdblake I understand completely.

I feel like I get something out of their specific and constructive rejections, but the rejection itself still sucks.

 

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Posted : July 23, 2021 9:43 pm
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I've had two more personal rejections today, one from Andromeda Spaceways and one from Abyss and Apex, who looked very close to an acceptance. Both had feedback too so I'll take another look at them before I send them back out.

My SHM certificate arrived today too, so three rejections rolled in glitter lol grinning #

I'll probably feel better about it after some sleep.

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Posted : August 26, 2021 5:48 pm
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Posted by: @pdblake

Two personal rejections in a row from Beneath Ceaseless Skies. Still rejections but with less of a sting.

BCS always sends personal rejections, unless you wrote something too different from what you're looking for (e.g. a science-fiction story).

 

Charlie Finlay rejected me 13 times back when he was F&SF's editor, two of those rejections were high-tier, meaning that he read the stories all the way to the end. 🙃 

 

 

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Posted : August 26, 2021 7:05 pm
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Posted by: @alexvss
Posted by: @pdblake

Two personal rejections in a row from Beneath Ceaseless Skies. Still rejections but with less of a sting.

BCS always sends personal rejections, unless you wrote something too different from what you're looking for (e.g. a science-fiction story).

 

Charlie Finlay rejected me 13 times back when he was F&SF's editor, two of those rejections were high-tier, meaning that he read the stories all the way to the end. 🙃 

 

 

I've sent them six stories so far and two of the six rejections came from Scott Andrews, their editor, and going on the comments they got read to the end.  The rest were from an editorial assistant, which I took to be a first reader, though also with comments that indicated they were read all the way through. 

Its nice to know they were read to be honest, and where they think I went wrong. Form rejections often leave me wondering.

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Posted : August 26, 2021 7:45 pm
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I got a rejection today. Comes with the territory. But, the story started in a queue at about 550 and would drop about 100 positions every week. Yesterday, it was at 250. Today, rejected. Am I wrong to suspect they were just full and never even got to my story?

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Posted : September 9, 2021 12:46 am
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@babooher I can’t speak for every market, but at Apex, first readers are reading the newly submitted stories (for example, queue #750-200) and marking them for the editors. The editor goes through and rejects all the stories that slush readers have passed on, and sends a hold email to those recommended to be read by the editors. The lower queue numbers (200-0) are those in the queue for the editors to read. I would guess—though I cannot guarantee—that this is what happened for your story. 

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Posted : September 9, 2021 9:41 pm
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Posted by: @babooher

I got a rejection today. Comes with the territory. But, the story started in a queue at about 550 and would drop about 100 positions every week. Yesterday, it was at 250. Today, rejected. Am I wrong to suspect they were just full and never even got to my story?

Was this from Apex? I've been stuck at position 260 for days now. That means I'm next 😤 

And I'd say that, no, they don't send a rejection because they're full. It may take weeks, even months, but they'll read at least the first paragraph 😝 

@RETreasure I can’t speak for every market, but at Apex, first readers are reading the newly submitted stories (for example, queue #750-200) and marking them for the editors. The editor goes through and rejects all the stories that slush readers have passed on, and sends a hold email to those recommended to be read by the editors. The lower queue numbers (200-0) are those in the queue for the editors to read. I would guess—though I cannot guarantee—that this is what happened for your story. 

That's a good explanation. Something similar happens at Uncanny. I think I was stuck at position 300-something when I got rejected the last time.

Do you work/worked at Apex? Does Leslie actually just automatically rejects the ones that the editors passed on, or does she read at least a page? If she doesn't, that would mean that the 30 rejections I got from them were never read by her or Jason. I never got a hold letter in my life.

 

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Posted : September 9, 2021 11:55 pm
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@alexvss I'm an associate editor at Apex, yes. There's a handy image on our submissions page showing the process toward publication for stories at Apex. We get up to two thousand submissions every month--slush readers have to be very discerning! I assure you that the slush team takes their job seriously, both as curators of the stories passed up to Jason and Lesley and as caretakers of writer's stories. Many stories are agonized over before the reader makes a decision. As much as we'd like them to, the editors simply don't have time to read every story, or even the first page of every story, submitted to the magazine. They'd never get anything else done!

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Posted : September 10, 2021 2:12 am
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@rschibler Ouch! That confirms all my submissions were never read by them. Makes it all sting a little harder. Now that I know how important hold letters are, I'll post here if I ever receive one (hell, I'll post it in the Success! thread 😝).

I remember the good days of C.C. Finlay on F&SF...I'd sub a story at night and, when I'd wake up, there would be a helpful personal rejection in my mailbox already. Well, guess he was superhuman 🤪  

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Posted : September 10, 2021 11:17 am
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@rschibler Thank you for a peek behind the curtain. I like learning that kind of thing.

 

And no, it wasn't Apex. 😉 

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Posted : September 10, 2021 11:18 am
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I miss Charlie too. I don’t know how he did it, but he made a huge impact. 

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Posted : September 10, 2021 12:16 pm
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Posted by: @disgruntledpeony

@doctorjest I totally get where you're coming from on this... I've done this dance myself, more than once. Having a critique group can help with this sometimes, because it gives an opportunity to get second opinions before it goes out to magazines, but in the end our own voice is the most important one to listen to--even more important than the editors that tell us how close we got, because one person's "not enough immersion in the POV" is another person's "the protagonist thinks too much". I hope this next round of edits goes well--my fingers are crossed for you. smiley  

That struggle is REAL!!! I will always be incredibly grateful about my experience with learning to trust my own voice and vision for a story and being more careful with critique advice and trying to adopt it only where it aligns with my needs for the story. But I'm not sure how well that 'trust myself' stance would stand up against professional editors at serious publications giving feedback :). 

@doctorjest hope you find the edits that make it YOUR best version of it and it finds a home!

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Posted : September 18, 2021 5:16 pm
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Posted by: @rschibler

@babooher I can’t speak for every market, but at Apex, first readers are reading the newly submitted stories (for example, queue #750-200) and marking them for the editors. The editor goes through and rejects all the stories that slush readers have passed on, and sends a hold email to those recommended to be read by the editors. The lower queue numbers (200-0) are those in the queue for the editors to read. I would guess—though I cannot guarantee—that this is what happened for your story. 

That is a very helpful insight into the workings at Apex. I have a few stories out on submission right now and I keep watching that queue number on them. I know not all markets are the same at all but between watching the queue numbers drop and seeing the bolded lines for responses on submissions that were made after mine on Submission Grinder I admit I am letting my hope build for at least a personal rejection from two of them.

I know playing rejectomancy before the response is kind of a fools errand. But I guess I am a fool giggle  

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Posted : September 18, 2021 5:28 pm
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Posted by: @czing
Posted by: @disgruntledpeony

@doctorjest I totally get where you're coming from on this... I've done this dance myself, more than once. Having a critique group can help with this sometimes, because it gives an opportunity to get second opinions before it goes out to magazines, but in the end our own voice is the most important one to listen to--even more important than the editors that tell us how close we got, because one person's "not enough immersion in the POV" is another person's "the protagonist thinks too much". I hope this next round of edits goes well--my fingers are crossed for you. smiley  

That struggle is REAL!!! I will always be incredibly grateful about my experience with learning to trust my own voice and vision for a story and being more careful with critique advice and trying to adopt it only where it aligns with my needs for the story. But I'm not sure how well that 'trust myself' stance would stand up against professional editors at serious publications giving feedback :). 

@doctorjest hope you find the edits that make it YOUR best version of it and it finds a home!

I'm hoping so too! I received some wonderful critique feedback, and I just finished all my major changes that resulted from them--the version I have now is very much ringing with my own voice, but with a few good lessons learned as well. And I still need to do some serious sweep-throughs--I have a very modest target of trying to trim 5% or so from the story's length, but that's not as easy as it sounds, because of how much I already cut away.

This last week has been the most productive one I've had since moving home in late July, so it's also nice to feel like I'm back in the saddle in time to try and get the story ready. And come what may, I think I'll be happy with the story I'm submitting, which is always a nice feeling.

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Posted : September 19, 2021 5:17 am
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Aaarrrgh! Sooo close! Guys, this is honestly the BEST personal rejection I have ever received. Won't say who it's from, but it's a pro flash fiction publisher. Here's the email I received, edited for anonymity:

Dear Morgan,

Thank you for considering [XX Publisher] for your story, "The Story I Submitted." Unfortunately we have decided not to accept it. As much as we wish we could, we can't publish every good story that comes our way. Truthfully, we're forced to return a great many stories with merits that make them well worthy of publication, including yours.

Your story did, however, reach the final stage of our selection process—one among an elite group. Less than 5% of stories make it this far. That is no small feat. In winnowing, stories are discussed and vetted before I make my final selections. If you are interested in receiving feedback based on those discussions, you are welcome to email me at [publisher email address]. Please use the following subject line: FEEDBACK REQUEST: [Story Title].

We wish you the best of luck finding a home for your story elsewhere, feel confident of your success in doing so, and hope to receive submissions from you in the future. May the muse be ever by your side.

Sincerely,

[Publisher Name]
Editor-in-Chief
[XX Publisher]

 

Naturally, I emailed the request. They sent me discussion feedback from thirteen individuals who had read the story, giving me some great notes to use in my revisions. I'd say this feels almost as good as an acceptance, except I have no acceptances yet to compare it to! LOL

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Posted : September 24, 2021 12:51 pm
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Posted by: @morgan-broadhead

Aaarrrgh! Sooo close! Guys, this is honestly the BEST personal rejection I have ever received. Won't say who it's from, but it's a pro flash fiction publisher. Here's the email I received, edited for anonymity:

Dear Morgan,

Thank you for considering [XX Publisher] for your story, "The Story I Submitted." Unfortunately we have decided not to accept it. As much as we wish we could, we can't publish every good story that comes our way. Truthfully, we're forced to return a great many stories with merits that make them well worthy of publication, including yours.

Your story did, however, reach the final stage of our selection process—one among an elite group. Less than 5% of stories make it this far. That is no small feat. In winnowing, stories are discussed and vetted before I make my final selections. If you are interested in receiving feedback based on those discussions, you are welcome to email me at [publisher email address]. Please use the following subject line: FEEDBACK REQUEST: [Story Title].

We wish you the best of luck finding a home for your story elsewhere, feel confident of your success in doing so, and hope to receive submissions from you in the future. May the muse be ever by your side.

Sincerely,

[Publisher Name]
Editor-in-Chief
[XX Publisher]

 

Naturally, I emailed the request. They sent me discussion feedback from thirteen individuals who had read the story, giving me some great notes to use in my revisions. I'd say this feels almost as good as an acceptance, except I have no acceptances yet to compare it to! LOL

As Inspector Gadget would say, "Missed it by that much."

Its really nice to get feedback. 

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Posted : September 24, 2021 1:37 pm
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Posted by: @morgan-broadhead

Aaarrrgh! Sooo close! Guys, this is honestly the BEST personal rejection I have ever received. Won't say who it's from, but it's a pro flash fiction publisher. Here's the email I received, edited for anonymity:

Dear Morgan,

Thank you for considering [XX Publisher] for your story, "The Story I Submitted." Unfortunately we have decided not to accept it. As much as we wish we could, we can't publish every good story that comes our way. Truthfully, we're forced to return a great many stories with merits that make them well worthy of publication, including yours.

Your story did, however, reach the final stage of our selection process—one among an elite group. Less than 5% of stories make it this far. That is no small feat. In winnowing, stories are discussed and vetted before I make my final selections. If you are interested in receiving feedback based on those discussions, you are welcome to email me at [publisher email address]. Please use the following subject line: FEEDBACK REQUEST: [Story Title].

We wish you the best of luck finding a home for your story elsewhere, feel confident of your success in doing so, and hope to receive submissions from you in the future. May the muse be ever by your side.

Sincerely,

[Publisher Name]
Editor-in-Chief
[XX Publisher]

 

Naturally, I emailed the request. They sent me discussion feedback from thirteen individuals who had read the story, giving me some great notes to use in my revisions. I'd say this feels almost as good as an acceptance, except I have no acceptances yet to compare it to! LOL

As Inspector Gadget would say, "Missed it by that much."

That’s fantastic! I got the same first paragraph rejection from what I assume is the same place, but the last bit offering the feedback is awesome! Good luck with your flash at the next place you send it. 

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Posted : September 24, 2021 2:23 pm
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Yesterday, I got yet another form rejection from Apex. I was at position 208 this time. I feel like I'm moving closer to be in the 200 😆 . Another story promptly submitted.

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Posted : September 24, 2021 4:35 pm
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Posted by: @morgan-broadhead

Aaarrrgh! Sooo close! Guys, this is honestly the BEST personal rejection I have ever received. Won't say who it's from, but it's a pro flash fiction publisher. Here's the email I received, edited for anonymity:

Dear Morgan,

Thank you for considering [XX Publisher] for your story, "The Story I Submitted." Unfortunately we have decided not to accept it. As much as we wish we could, we can't publish every good story that comes our way. Truthfully, we're forced to return a great many stories with merits that make them well worthy of publication, including yours.

Your story did, however, reach the final stage of our selection process—one among an elite group. Less than 5% of stories make it this far. That is no small feat. In winnowing, stories are discussed and vetted before I make my final selections. If you are interested in receiving feedback based on those discussions, you are welcome to email me at [publisher email address]. Please use the following subject line: FEEDBACK REQUEST: [Story Title].

We wish you the best of luck finding a home for your story elsewhere, feel confident of your success in doing so, and hope to receive submissions from you in the future. May the muse be ever by your side.

Sincerely,

[Publisher Name]
Editor-in-Chief
[XX Publisher]

 

Naturally, I emailed the request. They sent me discussion feedback from thirteen individuals who had read the story, giving me some great notes to use in my revisions. I'd say this feels almost as good as an acceptance, except I have no acceptances yet to compare it to! LOL

As Inspector Gadget would say, "Missed it by that much."

That's great news, Morgan! Do keep in mind that you can't please everybody, so it's best to only take suggestions like that if they ring true to you--but, if they do ring true, they can be incredibly helpful. grinning Glad you got such an awesome personal!

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Posted : September 24, 2021 9:03 pm
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Posted by: @pdblake

Two personal rejections in a row from Beneath Ceaseless Skies. Still rejections but with less of a sting.

BCS always sends personal rejections, unless you wrote something too different from what you're looking for (e.g. a science-fiction story).

 

Charlie Finlay rejected me 13 times back when he was F&SF's editor, two of those rejections were high-tier, meaning that he read the stories all the way to the end. 🙃 

 

 

I've sent them six stories so far and two of the six rejections came from Scott Andrews, their editor, and going on the comments they got read to the end.  The rest were from an editorial assistant, which I took to be a first reader, though also with comments that indicated they were read all the way through. 

Its nice to know they were read to be honest, and where they think I went wrong. Form rejections often leave me wondering.

Scott Andrews reads the opening of every submission then passes it to one of the BCS slush readers or to himself to read the rest. That sounds quite unusual as far as I'm aware. I got feedback from Scott once, but it was likely because my story was so short (only 300 words), so there wasn't much of an opening to read.

I love that BCS give feedback on every submission but appreciate that's not feasible for all markets.

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Posted : September 24, 2021 9:45 pm
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czing
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@morgan - that is an awesome rejection.

@pdblake - way to go on those personals.

@alexvss - good luck on moving down that queue.  I've been obsessively watching my queue position on one of my stories (not at apex) which has now gotten fairly low - but twice now it has gone back up. Not sure what to think about that. Maybe got moved to a different slush reader's pile. Trying not to read too much into it, but hoping at least to get a personal if it is a rejection.

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v37 Q1 - R; Q2 - SHM; Q4 - HM
v38 Q1 - HM; Q2 - SHM; Q3 - HM; Q4 - HM
v39 Q1 - SHM; Q3 - Pending

 
Posted : September 25, 2021 5:15 am
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Álex Souza
(@alexvss)
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@czing I've never heard, nor experienced, stories going back in the queue! I wonder why that happens 🤔 Maybe they're soliciting. I dunno. 

I've been stuck at position 3 in Costelación Magazine's queue for months once, and people were reporting getting rejected in The Grinder so that got my hopes up. Only to receive a normal form rejection a little afterwards 😬 

I learned that checking your position is mostly harmful. People getting rejected before you is not an indication that you'll be accepted at all.

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Posted : September 25, 2021 11:29 am
czing
(@czing)
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Oh I agree it is very silly of me to watch the queue position since I definitely don't know enough about how their reading process works to be able to interpret anything from it. I do find I am more prone to watching carefully with some stories. Just like some people have favourite children I have a few stories that are favourites and this one in particular is one of those.

But for today I am off, virtually, to a writing marathon with my writing group so I will close the tab with my queue position and really try to get a new story mostly written today.

v36 Q1, Q3 - HM; Q4 - R
v37 Q1 - R; Q2 - SHM; Q4 - HM
v38 Q1 - HM; Q2 - SHM; Q3 - HM; Q4 - HM
v39 Q1 - SHM; Q3 - Pending

 
Posted : September 25, 2021 2:50 pm
David Hankins
(@lost_bard)
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Aaaargh ... and yet YAY! I got my first personal reject today.

"Though several of our staff members enjoyed the story, it did not receive enough votes to make it to the third and final round of voting. We wish you the best of luck finding a home for it and hope you will consider us for future submissions."

Sending this puppy back out!

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Posted : October 3, 2021 1:10 pm
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Wulf Moon
(@wulfmoon)
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Posted by: @lost_bard

Aaaargh ... and yet YAY! I got my first personal reject today.

"Though several of our staff members enjoyed the story, it did not receive enough votes to make it to the third and final round of voting. We wish you the best of luck finding a home for it and hope you will consider us for future submissions."

Sending this puppy back out!

That’s a level up moment, David! May it find a home at a respectable publication!

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Posted : October 4, 2021 3:20 am
David Hankins
(@lost_bard)
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@wulfmoon 
Thanks! I had it in another publication’s inbox the same day. Now the waiting resumes.

 

Winner, Volume 39, 2nd Quarter, 3rd Place
V38: HM, HM, SHM
V39: HM, 3rd Place

Published Stories:
"A Properly Spiced Gingerbread" in DreamForge Anvil Volume 7
"The Last Quest of Corbin the Coward" in Factor Four Magazine
"Reassessed Value" in Third Flatiron's After the Gold Rush Anthology

 
Posted : October 4, 2021 10:17 am
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