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crlisle
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Orson Scott Card in his podcast says that fantasy novels have trees on the cover and science fiction novels have rivets! wotf001

You must listen to the podcast at 1:02. Mr. Card explains in detail why you must write fresh stories and not re-writes!
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Topic starter Posted : December 30, 2019 3:26 pm
AndyDibble
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This may be a subtle difference, but starting at 1:02 I didn't hear a call to write fresh stories but rather (in Card's words) to "reinvent" the story. It's fine to do be big rewrites (he talks about ditching even 200 pages and starting over from the beginning) of the same story. What he cautions against is the small-scale rewrites of individual scenes: if you "wash garbage it's still garbage." I.e. if the scene feels wrong, don't try to fix it by shuffling pieces around or tweaks.

It seemed that Card was much less skeptical about editing when the scenes, both individually and in conjunction, seemed right because when they all seem right you already have a good story. At that point making the prose sing could be worthwhile.

I wonder what Card would say about the case where everything seems right except for one scene that seems very wrong. That was actually the situation I was in for my winning story: a bunch of scenes with great pacing and dialog and a good character arc... behind 2200 words of info dump!

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Posted : January 1, 2020 12:16 pm
Scott_M_Sands
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I'm pretty sure he spoke about not editing? I shudder to think what some of my stories would be like without a once over (several times over).

He also mentioned that every story he's every written has sold, which I thought was cool. I question the quality of one or two of my oldest stories. It's nice to think that some of my slightly older stories just haven't sold yet.

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Posted : July 1, 2021 6:55 pm
Disgruntled Peony
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To be fair, part of the reason all of his stories have sold might be because he puts out massive short story collections every so often. In at least one of the collections I've got--because I bought at least two back in the day--I'm pretty sure there's a whole section of short stories he hadn't sold elsewhere, which meant they were getting published there for the first time. (I might be remembering wrong, but I think that's what I remember the intro to that part of the book saying.)

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Posted : July 3, 2021 6:30 am
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Posted by: @disgruntledpeony

To be fair, part of the reason all of his stories have sold might be because he puts out massive short story collections every so often. In at least one of the collections I've got--because I bought at least two back in the day--I'm pretty sure there's a whole section of short stories he hadn't sold elsewhere, which meant they were getting published there for the first time. (I might be remembering wrong, but I think that's what I remember the intro to that part of the book saying.)

That sounds perfectly likely, though to be honest, if all of my stories sold I would probably be horrified. I have written, and still sometimes write, some really junky fiction that I would probably rather nobody reads.

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Posted : July 3, 2021 8:20 am
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